Friday, January 25, 2013

Gun Control


So we are an armed nation with a tradition of freedom to go how we want, where we want, carrying what we want.  The recent social engineering talk indicates a willingness to tinker with the basic social structure by further controlling what can be purchased by individuals.  Limiting the size of sodas that can be purchased is futile unless the numbers purchased per day are also controlled, which also requires identification and recordkeeping and punishments for violating the law and so on.  When does it end?  When will people consider that the society already has a basis and that basis is important to preserve?  Changing society is no small thing and any change has far reaching consequences.  I prefer education to blatant control.   

I was a child when the civil rights demands began to be heard in the 1950s.  I can remember the black and white TV and the images of the small black girl walking up the school steps while being taunted by white men.  My father said it was wrong for those men to be there and that they were probably hypocrites who went to church every Sunday.  It took 60 years for true civil rights to manifest, exemplified by the election of President Obama.  Our society is much more homogeneous than it used to be. 

Those who advocate for the cessation of 2nd Amendment rights do not realize that an insurrection would result if confiscation were attempted.  A congresswoman has introduced a bill banning over a hundred types of firearms, all while saying this control over your choices is good for you.  If they control that, what else will they try to control?  Some liberals want the people to have no firearms, which would reduce them to subjects rather than citizens, to paraphrase a friend. 

Power mad city councilmen want the power to control gun ownership within the city limits.  As a first step they want to control gun sales within the city.   Being disarmed in the city of Tucson is like being naked on a city bus.  This attempted power grab by city councilmen should be thwarted.  Petty city officials should not attempt to breach constitutional rights.  What's next?  A computer check of every beer you drink with dinner?  A limit on salsa servings because it might cause heartburn?  A limit on the amount of candy you can buy?  These council people should get back to doing their jobs, which is to keep the city maintained and solvent, neither of which they are doing. 

 If their liberal goal is social engineering, perhaps a longer perspective is needed before attempting to destroy self reliance in our society, of which the possession of personal firearms is the most important manifestation.   Since the liberals feel free to design a future based on restrictions imposed on the populace now, perhaps an alternative vision is imperative.  How about a future where people are held accountable for their actions and possessions?  Swift accountability and punishment.  Remember McVeigh?  He didn't hang around long.  The delay in punishment creates a perception of no punishment but restraint, which seems a relief to these punks and failures who now are cared for at public expense.   

Rather than try to change the interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, it would be better to deal with the practical problems of gun ownership by the citizenry.  That could be done now without opposition.  Try and think of how to address the physical problem of guns being used by juveniles and lunatics to kill people.   The gun owner should be held libel for crimes committed by household members using the firearm.   In plain terms, adults who own firearms are responsible for securing them.  Punish adults who let juveniles and lunatics access firearms.  A minor should not own a gun.  Autistics, retarded people, suicidal people, people who have been convicted of assault and so on should not be allowed to legally own a gun.  It's already a crime to buy a gun for a criminal.  Let the behavior of the individual dictate gun accessability.  Don't punish the many for the sins of a few. 

Friday, January 11, 2013

Gun Control and the Establishment Press


The eastern establishment press is touting gun control because the demented are using firearms to kill, yet laws on the books were designed to prevent the incompetent from obtaining guns.  Parents allow access to firearms, trusting their children to be responsible.  Why are the parents not charged with child endangerment, by leaving guns available for juveniles to use?  Why are murderers let out of jail?  Should the actions of a few criminals dictate a national response of negating the second amendment?  The answer to curbing violence is not disarming the populace and making more victims possible.   

Now the gun control advocates preach from the safety of guarded premises that others should disarm just because they have, and just look at them all safe and warm and protected proselytizing against those of us who live on the economy having adequate firearms to protect ourselves.  I think Wayne La Pierre is correct when he brought out the point that celebrities are guarded, the banks are guarded, but nobody is guarding our children.  The shooting in California occurred because the armed guard didn't show up and the school didn't get a substitute.  So I should give up gun rights because of this? 

The national news is united in presenting very little coverage of those who would protest more anti gun legislation.  Famous for overkill on stories where they can push a political agenda, the press are surely going to feature a massacre a day on TV, where they can highlight a new massacre every day because I'm sure that in our long world history a massacre or battle has occurred for every day of the year.  The fools are deluded if they think that disarming the populace would produce world peace:  in the history of the world disarming the populace has led to pogroms, genocide, economic oppression and the Holocaust.

I cannot help but think about that guy who hammered his grandmother to death in New York, was convicted, let out by the liberal establishment, and then killed his sister and two firefighters with an illegally obtained gun.  So why did they let this murderer out?  Nobody in the press is dealing with this issue.  Cuomo gets up on the bully pulpit to preach gun control and even mentions confiscation of guns as a realistic goal, but still the NY legal edifice let the guy who hammered his grandmother to death out of jail.  Where is Cuomo's responsibility now?

I see light sentences for violent crime and vicious criminals let out of jail to prey on society, yet the screaming gun control advocates target taking away gun rights from citizens as a cure for this problem.  I see murdering punks like Loughner saved from the death penalty by the liberals while a good example of justice in the form of execution for murderers might be a deterrent for copycats.  We are a nation gone mad where innocent law abiding citizens are punished for the sins of a few madmen.  Yes, punished.  When my gun rights are taken away, I am punished for what others did.  I have had access to guns my entire life, yet never pulled one. 

The mother of the autistic shooter of children must have known that her son was not normal and as such should not have had access to firearms nor should he have been introduced to shooting, sort of not teaching a retarded child to swear by avoiding those words.  The woman cannot speak for herself so further speculation is futile. 

Another issue is the arming of the citizen militia and the need for a citizen militia.  If all these purposed bans on firearms come true, the citizens will be effectively reduced in the power to arm themselves on a par with police and military, not to combat them, but to complement them.  Volunteer search and rescue, volunteer posses and neighborhood watch groups are respected in our communities.   It is the right and the responsibility of citizens to be members of an effective civilian militia, if they so choose.


Eric Holder has a credibility problem in that he sponsored a 'program' where smugglers were allowed to buy large numbers of assault rifles, permitted to smuggle the rifles into Mexico and then these rifles were used in vicious murders in Mexico.  Money was even laundered for these criminals by our own justice department in order to facilitate this deal called Fast and Furious.  Border Patrol Agent Terry died, killed in the line of duty by a criminal using one of these guns.  Yet now the sanctimonious Holder is now smugly going to recommend that civilian rights to those same kinds of weapons should be denied to citizens of the United States after he condoned the export of these same kinds of weapons to Mexico.  This was done in Arizona, and these guns are still surfacing, the last at the murder of several people in Mexico City.  

Another interesting analyses of the spate of killings has related the consumption of various psychoactive drugs on the part of a huge percentage of killers.  They also hint that big pharma is preventing this discussion of psychiatric drugs they sell, but I think that a comprehensive discussion of the mental health issues involved in these killings will reveal the drug issue.  So possibly prescribed drugs are facilitating violence?  It's easy to blame guns when the actual cause of the behavior that resulted in violence is the individual.  Disarming citizens so they cannot defend themselves against insanity or drug induced rage will not stop the violence.       

 This data should elicit some graphs and perhaps a pattern will emerge.  If the data is accurate, there are patterns.  If guns are being blamed for murders, perhaps more blame lies with the individual who is in an insane state of mind due to prescription drugs. 

Here is the facebook post concerning the possible drugs killers were on if you want to look at the data presented:

”This is the last post John Noveske made on his Facebook page before he was killed:

Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold's medical records have never been made available to the public.

Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather's girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.

Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.

Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.

Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.

Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.

Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.

Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.

A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.

Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..

A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.

Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.

TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.

Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.

James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.

Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania

Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California

Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.

Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.

Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic's file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.

Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.

Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.

Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.

Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.

Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family's Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.

Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara's parents said ".... the damn doctor wouldn't take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil...")

Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002,
(Gareth's father could not accept his son's death and killed himself.)

Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family's detached garage.

Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.

Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.

Woody ____, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.

A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.

Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and "other drugs for the conditions."

Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.

Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.

Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.

Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his
New York high school.

Missing from list... 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds....

What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21...... killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, Az

What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24..... killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado

What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas Or

What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on, age 20, Killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown Ct
Roberts is the only one that I haven't heard about being on drugs of some kind.

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